Published Monday, May 7, 2012 AT 6:42 PM / Updated at 11:48 PM
Mad Chatter, May 7 (Ron Brown)
Dirk Chatelain Omaha World-Herald

This blog focuses on sports content, not religion or politics or my thoughts on life. I have no intention of changing that. But the biggest local sports story of the weekend was Ron Brown’s decision not to testify this afternoon in front of the Lincoln City Council.

Brown, as you know, is opposed to homosexuality, and Lincoln — as I write this — is considering an ordinance that protects homosexuals from discrimination.

Bringing up the Brown story — even linking to a national column about him — is like dropping a match in a lake of gasoline. But it’s an important topic, one where sports and life intersect. In order to weigh in, I feel like I need to write about myself.

I am a Christian. And since childhood, athletic role models have been an important part of my spiritual journey. Perhaps no one more than Ron Brown.

When I was a kid, I read his book — “I Can.” It opens with the story of Victor Stachmus, a Nebraska football recruit diagnosed with leukemia. Right before he died, Brown writes, Stachmus accepted Jesus. It’s riveting testimony.

During high school and college, Ron Brown helped me come closer to Christ multiple times. Once, after hearing him speak, I ended up at the front of a church on my knees. Once, after reading a popular book that examined religious fanaticism, I sought his guidance.

Ron Brown is part of my spiritual story — I can’t change that if I wanted to.

That doesn’t mean we always see the world the same way.

Is Brown right from a religious perspective to condemn homosexuality? Is he right to speak out as a prominent employee at a state institution that espouses anti-discrimination? For me, the answers are complicated.

I think it’s lazy when national columnists misconstrue Brown’s views and make him a caricature. When they question how he’d treat a player who doesn’t buy his beliefs. When they can’t distinguish between disapproving of a person and disapproving of a behavior. When they call him a bigot.

But I also think it’s crazy to call Brown a victim. He hasn’t been fired for whom he falls in love with. His sexual orientation isn’t subject to constant judgment and scorn from complete strangers.

I question what it means to our society to censor someone like Ron Brown. But I also question to what degree our laws should reflect religious doctrine. And I wonder how Brown would feel if our legislation was guided by Islam or Judaism or Hinduism.

I want to do right by God. I don’t always know what “right” is.

I know what the Bible says about homosexuality. I also know what it says about compassion and empathy. About loving your neighbor — a commandment Jesus ranks second behind loving God.

I believe that Brown sincerely seeks religious truth. But the anti-discrimination proposal, as I understand it, doesn’t threaten the core principles of the Christian faith. It reinforces them.

Which is why I believe Brown is wrong.

Whether he’s trying or not, Brown’s words belittle homosexuals in a way that reflects negatively on Nebraska and — more importantly — on Christianity. I believe his tone and rhetoric over the years on other social issues has occasionally been heavy-handed and off the mark.

Does this mean Ron Brown has become more radical? Probably not. Perhaps I’ve changed, both as a person and as a Christian. Perhaps I’m wrong. I don’t know all the answers.

I do know that Ron Brown is one of the most eloquent, charismatic, passionate people I’ve ever met, Christian or non-Christian. He’s helped thousands — perhaps millions — of people, Christian and non-Christian.

I don’t want Brown to reserve his faith for Sunday mornings. I want him to lead. I want him to be a Christian voice on larger societal issues. I want him to promote not only what behavior the Bible prohibits, but the character traits it encourages. I want him to break down barriers between Christians and non-Christians, not compare council members to Pontius Pilate.

I want him to help people experience the same spiritual high I did reading about a teenager from Oklahoma who, on his deathbed, embraced Christ.

Mostly, I want Ron Brown to be a positive influence for his God. And mine.

(I understand the wishes to comment on Brown and the ordinance, but please, please do so respectfully.)

About Dirk Chatelain

Dirk Chatelain is a staff writer for The Omaha World-Herald and covers Nebraska football and general assignments. You can follow Dirk on Twitter (@dirkchatelain) or email him at


  1. Wally Starinsky says:

    Way to justify this entire column by stating you are a christian.
    May as well just shut this thread down. The things that will be said are sure to be disgusting and embarrassing to our state.

    1. Stuart jenkins says:

      Mr. Brown needs to learn how to be anti sin without being unchristian before ever speaking in public or leading a prayer.

      Hate is like pornography, I can’t define it but I know it when I see it. The video of Ron Browns performance at the Omaha City Council meeting met my definition of hate. Anytime you compare someone to Hitler or Pontius Pilate you have left Christianity and Christian values far behind.

      As a Christian I don’t want Ron Brown represent my faith, my God or my values. I hope Ron seeks some humility and grows in his love for his fellow man. He owes the City Council a full throated apology.

      1. John says:

        I didn’t see the video of the meeting, but I read the transcript. Ron Brown didn’t compare the City Council members to Pontius Pilate. He stated that they faced the same question Pontius Pilate face — “What will you do with Jesus?” That’s a whole different question.

        1. Bart Burroughs says:

          and completely inappropriate and out of place at a council meeting about an anti-discrimination ordinance. Your religious views are completely irrelevant as it relates to basic human rights. Protecting peoples rights against discrimination from people who are predisposed to hate them because they are different then, or don’t agree with them is a protection our society owes it’s people. IF you feel it is ok to discriminate against another human being then you are a bigot by definition. It doesn’t matter if that feeling is based on a religious belief that God and Jesus would want you to do so or not, plain and simple. There are those, Dirk included that won’t see it that way but in my mind it is no different than any other hate groups reasons for hating people who are different from them.

          1. Greg says:

            Ok…that is utterly laughable. “Your religious views are completely irrelevant as it relates to basic human rights.” If all men practiced christianity as Christ would have it, there would be no human rights abuses. Homosexuality would still be wrong as would all other sins but that doesn’t make calling homosexuality wrong (or any other sin) a “hate crime”. Everyone has “a religion” and everyone uses their “views” to interpret the world and people around them. To suggest otherwise is laughable and blind to the reality of human nature. Saying “homosexuality is a sin” IS NOT a hate crime nor is it a human rights abuse. Bullying is wrong. Hate is wrong. Violence against homosexuality is wrong. Loving someone who sins, like Christ would have loved them, that is what we all should strive for.

          2. Bart says:

            evidently Greg didn’t want a comment on his post because there is not a reply button on the bottom of his comments. But in response, anti-discrimination laws are man made laws to protect people from people not gods laws. So to show up to a meeting to say you don’t agree with it because God thinks homosexuals are sinners is laughable and should be ignored as a valid reason for or against any human law aimed at how humans actually treat other humans. As for how Jesus would treat people I don’t profess to know how Jesus would think or how he would react to a situation but since all of the reference that I can find about homosexuality in the bible is in the old testament, prior to Jesus and I can’t find any reference in the new testament ascribed to Jesus about homosexuality specifically, and the fact that he counted a prostitute in his inner circle when other religious leaders of the day would have stoned her to death, it is my humble opinion that he probably would not have shown up at the meeting, but that is my opinion and you may not agree. Also, more people have been persecuted and killed in the name of religion over the centuries than almost any other reason if you pay attention to history and I’m pretty sure Jesus wouldn’t want people to act that way. So the reality is, Men, even so called Christian men need to be forced not to discriminate even if they think their religious beliefs give them to right to do so.

          3. Greg says:

            Bart, there was a way to reply because you did. First, it is still laughable to say, “Your religious views are completely irrelevant as it relates to basic human rights.” Second, your last point, ” …so called Christian men need to be forced not to discriminate even if they think their religious beliefs give them to right to do so.” Religious beliefs give the right to discriminate? Your premise is incorrect and fallacious. Forced? The major forcing going on here is the demand we redefine marriage. As far as homosexuality and the bible and the New Testament goes, if one were to be so bold as to say marriage is between one man and one woman, then homosexuality falls into the same category as all other forms of sex out side of marriage. That is the entire crux of “legalizing” gay marriage. “If it is marriage, then it can’t be wrong” is the thought process. The problem is, I didn’t define marriage, God did. That does not mean I hate homosexuals. That does not mean I don’t think they should be given the same rights and held to the same levels of responsibility as citizens of this country, state, county, or community who are married or any couple who decides to share a domicile, pool resources, and care for each other. Call it what you want, but it isn’t marriage. And yes, Jesus associated with sinners and he loved them all. If all loved as Jesus loved (God’s laws) there would be no need for anti-discrimination laws (man’s laws) and there would have been fewer wars. As far a religion and war goes, yeah, lets hold up people like Hitler, Pol Pot, radical islam (now and in the middle ages), and those good white southern people who wanted to hold on to slavery as sterling examples of religion (or Tammy Faye Bakker for that matter). Lets ignore the good religions do. An by the way Bart, I love you. It is sad when differences of opinion are call Hate Speech. I will close with the same words as in my last post, “Saying homosexuality is a sin” IS NOT a hate crime nor is it a human rights abuse. Bullying is wrong. Hate is wrong. Violence against homosexuality is wrong. Loving someone who sins, like Christ would have loved them, that is what we all should strive for.”

          4. Bart says:

            Greg, again you get it completely wrong. no one has the right to discriminate or persecute someone for being gay because they think their religion gives them the right to. And we need laws to protect all people from small minded bigots who would use religion as an excuse for their bigotry. What if there is someone that decides they don’t believe in God or Jesus? do they lose all of their rights under the law? or not deserve the same legal protections as people who do believe? Using religious belief as an excuse to deny a certain segment of society equal representation under the law is preposterous and offensive.

        2. Greg says:

          Bart, Back to your premise that I said was false i.e., “no one has the right to discriminate or persecute someone for being gay because they think their religion gives them the right to”. I agree religion does not give anyone the right to discriminate and I don’t think the majority of christians would disagree with me. The assumption you have is that most christians think they have that right and that discrimination takes place on a GRAND scale. I hope that is not so. If it is so, then I accept that I was wrong and your premise is correct. If discrimination is taking place on a small scale then it should be prosecuted under the law. I don’t have a problem with certain legal rights be extended to a heterosexual elderly couple who live together, a gay couple, or a young heterosexual couple of the same sex who live together. I don’t approve of hatred, discrimination because one group “sins”, or bigotry. But there is right and wrong as defined by God. As stated above, marriage is defined by God as one man and one woman and cultures around the world for centuries Speaking for myself, I have my own dark sins and am in no place to condemn. Even the best of men has no right to condemn…judgement belongs to God. Take care Bart and trust that not all who are religious hate, are closed minded or bigoted…they do choose to try let God’s laws control their life as much as is possible.

      2. R says:

        ..oh, you mean like ,uhhh….Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, Tammy Faye…??

        All fine “Christian Folk” they wuz…

    2. R says:

      Welcome to Dirk’s world…and UNL’s poor grasp of the 1st Amendment.
      Where an idiot is chastised/praised/written about ( Ron Brown)
      Where mad ’70′s bomber Bill Ayers is not (another idiot).
      NU actually PAID money for that idiot to travel to and speak ON CAMPUS..!

      The column should be an examination of the 1st Amendment–not Dirkie’s narration of his “Christian war”, complete with little toy soldiers.
      “Christianity” and all it connotes—just muddies the waters.

      Never met a Journalist who didn’t think he/she was the smartest guy or gal in the room (see, idiot #3).

      Write about jock straps and Ben-Gay (no pun), Dirkie.
      Let the Sky Pilots pontificate about religion. (idiot #4)

      We heathens can choose to simply ignore –both/all/none.

    3. VOODOOSID says:

      My main problem with Ron Brown is he picks and chooses what to follow in the Bible. The book of Leviticus that he quotes homosexual is wrong, also quotes that disobedient wives and children can be stoned to death. Ive also read in the Bible its a sin to work on Sundays, eating pork and shellfish, where is Ron on these issues?

  2. Josh says:

    I want to live in a country where people can disagree on things without without it having to tun into some overly dramatic spectacle. I don’t agree with Ron Brown, I am in favor of gay marriage. I’m an atheist. But the way some people in society seek to silence others who they disagree with disgusts me. It’s a sad reflection of our current political landscape. And I don’t believe this ordinance was or is necessary or even useful. It’s a feel-good waste of time. The attention this story has gotten nationally is ridiculous.

    1. Andrew says:

      Thank you. Though I disagree with your position on the topic at hand, I couldn’t agree more with you about the manner in which we should express our disagreement.

    2. Gus says:

      I agree with you completely, Josh.

      1. HuskerGod says:

        I completely disagree about Gay Marriage; Marriage is between a Man/Woman…everything else is exactly that “Something Else”. Define it how you will, call it what you want, use whatever terminology you desire, ultimately it is different and therefore should be defined as such. That being said, I agree the ordinance is a feel good waste of time. Laws, ordinances, bylaws, guidelines, mandates, regulations dont prevent discrimination, people prevent discrimination. Its boils down to who you are as a person….Period! I dont discriminate against anyone simply because we dont agree, small mindless fools treat people that way! We dont have to agree on everything and we never will, but we must treat each other with respect as human beings.

        Dirk…dont hide behind the christian thing buddy, save us all the sloppy foamy touchy feely background you use to justify disagreeing with Ron Brown. Just man up and disagree with him and save all the “Hallmark Moments” for the Living Section of this paper!

        1. UkeOne says:

          HuskerGod says:
          “…I completely disagree about Gay Marriage; Marriage is between a Man/Woman…everything else is exactly that “Something Else”. Define it how you will, call it what you want, use whatever terminology you desire, ultimately it is different and therefore should be defined as such. That being said, I agree the ordinance is a feel good waste of time…people prevent discrimination…small mindless fools treat people that way! ”

          Wow…where do I begin? The very issue about gay marriage is all about ‘equal rights under the law” and “equal recognition and protection” in a society that us full of hatemongers who wish that this and other rights are limited to only to the religiously and righteously chosen. This country is not governed by religion or the zealots who spew ‘their flawed interpretation” of the basic constitutional principles that make this country what it is. This is a country which is filled with different people “who are who they are”…not because this was ‘a choice,’ but by their own birth rights: whether it be that of gender, race, color, where they were originally born, and yes, their sexual orientation (which is ‘not’ chosen). Religion, on the other hand, “is” chosen…completely man-made and man-governed! Yes, there is a God, and Yes, God instilled within mankind a freedom of the will, to choose what a he or she wants to believe or not. Mankind chose religion to be what it is today…with all its differing interpretations and divisions (whether one wishes to adhere to Old Testament beliefs, or to the New Testament system which professes only ‘two” major principles taught by Jesus Christ Himself: to love God and to love your neighbor as you would love yourself!). Ron Brown (& others) get the response they are getting because this is ‘how they chose to treat their neighbors….therefore, don’t expect ‘respect and acceptance’ to be the by-product of hatred and intolerance!” Jesus doesn’t speak about (or condemn in any way) homosexuality, which is precisely why he took a prostitute into his circle of believers. Jesus chose to do this ‘as God’ (not ignoring the sin of the woman, yet ‘accepting her ‘fully and without bias or discrimination’) despite the staus quo: the opponents to God’s message of love and tolerance that would have preferred to distance her…even ‘kill her’ to fulfill their need to hate the sinner). Homosexuals did not get ‘a choice’ at life any more than a heterosexual has received…and there are many, many “mindless fools” out there who ‘by choice’ can prevent discrimination against their fellow man or woman, but won’t for one stupid reason or another (but mainly because of ‘the killer’ instinct that so many so-called ‘believers’ adhere to because they think they are ‘doing God’s wil…which, by the way, such fools call ‘love’). Jesus was, ‘is’ and will always be God, and He practiced ‘no such thing.’ The workplace is one such place that is filled with such individuals that won’t accept basic human dignity and rights into the confines of their own establishments; likewise, people (like Ron Brown and others) use their ‘elevated’ positions’ in the public view to bring-down those who have been brutalized and even killed for something that they were inherintly born into (some in the ‘name of God’ and some just because ‘killing a human’ …in body or spirit…is the right or cool thing to do). Whether it be through misunderstanding or outright hatred, a large portion of our society is systematically being targeted (by these fools) for their differences; and because of it, they are being systematically deprived of their right to freedom & happiness in this divisive society. It is for that reason that civic laws and protections be put in place to counter these “mindless fools” and give the peace and dignity that ALL tax-paying citiizens deserve in our society. The “fools” can continue their holy rhetoric from their pulpits (no one is stopping them from exercising their right to vomit hate-verbage because they believe God told them to do so); however, outside the confines of religious houses of worship, society and ‘everything it has to offer’ belongs ‘TO THE PEOPLE” period, and not just to the holier-than-thou zealots who have laid claim to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness that rightfully belongs to ALL humankind! Call it ‘what you will’…but ‘everyone deserves his or her “equal” chance at life!’

    3. TJ says:

      Josh I too agree with you. I consider myself in Ron Brown’s position, but I don’t like the way ideas are expressed anymore. Gone are the days of agreeing to disagree, replaced by ranting, raving, and name calling…by ALL sides. This is why nothing worthwhile gets done in our governments and nothing gets taught in our schools.

  3. Adam says:

    This whole debate comes down to why you think homosexuals exist. Is it a choice or are they born that way? For me, being black, hispanic, white, male/female, or gay/straight are not choices. Sometimes people are just born different. Nobody chooses to subject themselves to the stress and abuses that arise from being a LGBT person. LGBT discrimination is on the same level as discrimination based on race. You have to protect them the same way. Most people who say otherwise have never really faced discrimination the way those folks have. I welcome this advancement for society. If employers say that they don’t need this law because they don’t discriminate, well then they should welcome this law as well. If they aren’t violating the proposed law now, then they have nothing to fear if it becomes a law.

    1. steve says:

      Answer me this question: How do you know that homosexuals are born that way? Can you give me 1 ounce of credible evidence that supports that claim? If homosexuals are born that way, how is it that completely identical twins can have different sexual orientations – one gay and the other strait? It is a choice!
      Also, where do we draw the line with gay marriage? If we allow gays to marry, why not allow a man to have 8 wives? How come a 40 year old man can’t marry an 8 year old girl? If you think we would never allow that to happen, 20 years ago we would have never thought we were discussing gay marriage?

      1. Tony says:

        No doubt. If we as a society will not define marriage, why can’t an old woman marry her dog? What if that’s what she wants? Doesn’t she have a right to be happy? You can use that argument over and over. It will get ridiculous. Can we at least define marriage???

        1. Jacob says:

          We don’t need to define marriage. God already has. It’s completely somebodies choice if they want to follow Christ or not. Am I saying gay marriage should be legal? No. However, homosexual people deserve to be treated with love – the way God would want them to be treated.

          1. jerry says:

            Josh – The loving thing God/Christ would want us to do is warn others of their sin, lying, stealing, homosexuality etc. and tell them the gospel of Christ, before it’s too late. There is a hell and the unloving thing to do is keep quiet and let others keep on believing what they are doing is not sin.
            Jesus said “repent and believed the gospel”. There is no hate in warning others of their sin, we just need to also be aware of our own.

      2. Andrew says:

        Adam, as a school teacher, I have had identical twins many times in my classroom. They sit right next to each other side by side. They both tried incredibly hard. One was an A student the other was a C student. I have a hard time believing that the student “chose” to get a C while the other “chose” to get an A.

        1. Randy Kadavy says:

          Really, all the C student needs is to work harder at success. Lame comparison.

      3. Husker_Mort says:

        Please provide “1 ounce of credible evidence” that counters the claim.

      4. grady says:


        I am going to try as politely as I can, but your comment is borderline oppresive and is 100% ignornat. While I personally think the term “gay marriage” is the incorrect term to be used (this country “should” be a secular country, it is because of that that “marriage” is a church-related argument and therefore has no relevance in items related to government), I stand 100% behind civil unions, which requires 100% benefits and “privileges” that a heterosexual couple receive when they have a marriage’s licsence.

        As for your examples: polygamy and polyandry were outlawed when Utah was allowed to join the US of A. A man did have 8 wives, but he wasn’t a US citizen. 2) We can’t allow a 40 year old to marry an 8 year old because we have deemed 8 year olds not ready, both mentally and some physically. In addition to this, we also have laws the fight pedophillia. AND in biblical and post-biblical times it was acceptable for 40 year olds to “marry” 8 year olds. And to counter your last point,60 years ago, we also would have found the idea of a Black President, Doctor, Lawyer, or other profession repulsive and impossible due to their lack of intelligence and integrity.

        If you took the time to simply think through your comment before posting, you would have seen most of what you said could be countered by comman sense. Just like Dylan said, “times are a-changing”. You can fight it and look like an ignoramus, or be civil and accept everyone for who they are, like a GOOD Christian.

        1. john says:

          The point that Steve was trying to make is that homosexuality is on the same level as polygamy, pedophilia, and beastiality because they are desires of man that are sinful. Just as polygamy and etc are illegal, homosexuality was at one point illegal (acts of sodomy)… (Actually, I believe sodomy is still on the books in a few states) Further, that just because our society has became desensitized to homosexuality as being the norm doesn’t make it any less sinful in the eyes of God.

        2. jerry says:

          time changes but not God!!! We often try to remake God to fit our needs/wants instead of listening to Him and submitting to His authority in all matters. This has always been problem for our fallen world, from Adam and Eve to today.The solution then is to be transformed to Christ likeness by God’s word and His Holy Spirit as we repent and come to believe in and trust in Christ’s payment on the cross for our sins.
          May the scales be dropped from our eyes and our ears made to hear.
          I would encourage all to attend a Bible believing church and read and hear the “good news” for yourselves. I myself am a sinner – saved only by the Grace of God!!!

      5. hskrfanzsc says:

        yes….plenty of evidence to support that one is born that way….it’s called EVOLUTION. many species besides mankind practice sexual orientation different from the norm. Christians forget about this or simply ignore it due to a built in abhorance to the principles of biology in general. i’m a christian…i’m also a scientist…and respect for the laws of nature is a respect for god and the way the universe is put together. simply…variation in species behavior will always produce a diversity…whether it’s racial…skin color…or sexual orientation. THIS IS NORMAL people!!!!! I applaud Ron Brown for his christianity and faith…I take issue with his attempts to separate and reclassify human beings.

        1. SB says:

          There is exactly 0 evidence that supports evolution on that kind of scale.

          If you really do call yourself a christian, then you are declaring you believe the bible as TRUTH. The bible talks about same sex marriage and homosexual activities very clearly.

          God created man in his own image, he did not create humans in a way that allows them to be born one way or the other. We are all born sinners and that is all. It is a choice whether someone is “gay”. They choose to live that lifestyle as a result of deception from Satan.

        2. BallField78 says:

          Evolution? Isn’t that where a species changes a little bit at a time via having children different from the parents? Having children? Having children? Get it? If homosexuality is a product of evolution, it is clearly a cul-de-sac on the road.

          Many species? Well, the Bible says God made man above the animals (Gen 1:26 etc.). Time to stop acting like animals. (Lev 18:22, 23).

          In your 2nd sentence you say “different from the norm.” Correct. Then you say “THIS IS NORMAL…!”

          Bible also says God is not the author of confusion. Implies someone else is. (1Cr 14:33).

          One last important consideration: Prov. 28:9.

      6. SeattleHusker says:

        Here’s my ounce of evidence; you can decide whether or not it’s credible. I’m gay and there was never a point in my life when I chose to be gay. And given the prejudice that gays and lesbians can face, why would anyone choose to be gay? By asking that question, I’m not expressing regret that I’m gay; it’s just another characteristic with which I was born (brown hair, blue eyes, etc.).

        But since you apparently feel that sexual orientation is a choice, let me ask you this: when did you choose to be straight? Were you attracted to both men and women and, after considerable, thoughtful deliberation, decide that you liked women more and were therefore straight?

      7. SeattleHusker says:

        Here’s my ounce of evidence; you can decide whether or not it’s credible. I’m gay and there was never a point in my life when I chose to be gay. And given the prejudice that gays and lesbians can face, why would anyone choose to be gay? By asking that question, I’m not expressing regret that I’m gay; it’s just another characteristic with which I was born (brown hair, blue eyes, etc.).

        But since you apparently feel that sexual orientation is a choice, let me ask you this: when did you choose to be straight? Were you attracted to both men and women and, after considerable, thoughtful deliberation, decided that you liked women more and were therefore straight?

        1. SB says:

          It’s a result of being born sinners and the devil decieves us all in different ways. Some with anger, pride, drunkenness, immorality, or homosexuality.

      8. todd says:

        Steve, if you think people aren’t born gay or straight, then answer me this: when was the moment in your life when you “decided” to be heterosexual?

        1. BallField78 says:

          We are born with certain body parts, a certain gender. We decide what to do with those parts.

          1. darwin says:

            This whole thing is ridiculous and Ron Brown is an embarrassment. How do we explain people who aren’t born with a clear gender? This is something that occurs all over the world. At childbirth, parents of these children have to decide what gender their child should be and then surgery is done to make them that particular sex. Gender and sex function on a continuum. There is no black and white, but there is a large amount of gray.

            I’m straight and have many gay and some transsexual friends. I can tell you without a doubt, they aren’t making the decision to be how they are. And why should I care about their sexual orientation?!?!?!? It’s none of your business whether other people sleep with the same sex or the opposite sex and anything in between. Mind your own business and quit trying to “save” people who don’t have the same beliefs as you.

            In nature, homosexuality is prevalent in hundreds of other species. In ancient Greece and Rome, men had sex with boys as a rite of passage to adulthood. Homosexuality preceded Christ and our current culture is hate filled.

          2. BallField78 says:

            Darwin, so now you’re defending Sandusky’s actions?

          3. darwin says:

            Really?! Out of everything I wrote, you choose to talk about sandusky’s actions? Nope, not defending those, I think they’re deplorable and actually illegal…. unlike being a homosexual which is NOT illegal. I’m simply stating that throughout history, homosexuality has been ingrained in human sexuality in one form or another. Not only in humans, but in countless other species. There’s no argument against that other than one verse of the bible that’s is consistently taken out of context.

          4. BallField78 says:

            Not “out of everything” but it’s how you concluded your “argument.” You were relating nature, history, homosexuality, and pedophilia. “In nature, homosexuality is prevalent in hundreds of other species. In ancient Greece and Rome, men had sex with boys as a rite of passage to adulthood. ” Did you NOT expect a response to that? Really?

            And the Biblical issues is by no means restricted to just one verse. I’ll let you read for yourself. The “context” is “abomination.”

          5. darwin says:

            I’m glad you brought up “abomination”. I don’t see christians taking issue with people who eat shellfish, birds, mammals that walk on 4 legs etc. In the bible, which I have read, that is also an “abomination”. Leviticus 11:10-11:30 We can’t just pick and choose certain verses of the bible to make a point, unless we abide by the rest of it in the same way.

            Let’s stop judging people for their decisions and let them live their lives how they choose. Ron Brown should stick to football, not judgment… that should be left to God.

      9. tim says:

        I don’t identify with homosexuality one iota. I’m not here to promote any LGBT agenda, gay marriage, or anything of the sort. And I especially don’t like how the gay agenda is always in my face seeking approval at some level. Go do whatever it is you need to do is my feeling on the matter. And I don’t know if gays are born “that way”, and you also bring up a valid point…where, as a society, do we draw the line as what constitutes a norm in our society on this subject? But just ask yourself one question: “Do you remember the day you started liking girls and/or women”? Like me, probably not. You just knew that, or came to the realization at some point, you were attracted to women. You eventually accepted it as a given, a truism, and a part of how things are in your world. Just as I did (and still do). And from that point on, you probably started taking notice of girls in school and responding accordingly. But what you probably didn’t do is declare at the time “I am making a conscious choice to like women”. I’m not a scientist or a physchologist, but it’s more complicated than that, and I suspect that gays go through the same discovery process. It’s just that they come up with a different result than we did. So is it really a choice? Again, I’m not trying to say anything other than everyone out there is fighting their own fight, and just trying to understand their position might help with civility a little. And there is a big difference between “understanding” and “advocating/endorsing”. As far as the other activities you mentioned, I think we as a society are in full agreement that none of those scenarios are socially acceptable (even though they still happen…see Sandusky, Jerry for addtl info)

      10. Dave says:

        I think it’s interesting to hear someone ask for another to prove that homosexuals aren’t born that way and to prove it. And that it’s a choice. Well reverse that question – do you have 1 ounce of proof that they are not born that way?

        What a horrible “choice” it must be for them to make. No rights, victim’s of hate crimes, pointed and mocked at and a society that makes it easier for them to hide in shame than to admit they are gay. Sounds like a “choice” that would be a heck of a lot easier not to make. So then why would they make the harder choice? Let’s all try thinking through something rationally vs. emotionally.

      11. joey says:

        Amen Steve AMEN!!!!

      12. n0 on3 says:

        I had a friend in high school who lived in a nearby small town, a nice Christian community. From his mannerisms and the way he talked – everyone knew he was gay. However, when he decided to come out, he was bullied, received death threats, and was disowned by his own parents. He was forced to move away and make it on his own. I don’t know where he went and never heard from him again. Its really too bad he “chose” to be gay and have all of this happen to him.

    2. Bart says:

      “Choice” or “born that way” doesn’t matter at all. It should be a basic Human right to be able to live free of discrimination or persecution for being a certain way whether it is a choice or not. No person should ever have the right to pass judgement on another human being like that. I believe the bible mentions that little tidbit of wisdom as well.

      1. Ryan Rhoades says:

        The Bible doesn’t say not to judge, it says not to judge unless you are willing for that same standard to apply to you. Probably the most misquoted scripture ever.

        1. Bart says:

          actually it’s even more black and white. “judge not lest ye yourself be judged” i.e. don’t judge people unless you want to be judged as well. But it’s a moot point. This law is to protect people against being discriminated against and have a legal recourse if they are discriminated against even if the discriminator happens to believe they have a “right” to discriminate.

    3. buffalo bill says:


      Explain to me how a straight man can “choose” to have sex with another man. Why would he do that? It makes no sense.

      1. BallField78 says:

        It makes no sense? That is precisely the point, biologically, evolutionally, speaking.

        1. Bart says:

          I think what he is trying to say is, no straight man would ever choose to have sex with another man. I know I could never “Choose” that could you? so that is why he is saying it isn’t a matter of choice but a matter of genetics. You don’t agree because you are coming from a position that you don’t believe anyone is “born” gay and that it has to be a choice. He is coming from a position that no one would “choose” to be gay because of how it would affect their life socially speaking, and that you would have to be born that way with no real option of being straight. but at the end of the day, how you got their is irrelevant, you still deserve to be protected from persecution and discrimination no matter what.

  4. adam says:

    Dirk props to you for writing about this issue and voicing your opinions knowing there would be people that tear you down for it. I don’t agree with you on everything but I respect you for speaking your mind. And to those readers that feel the need to attack someone for having a different opinion than them- that’s not a very efficient way to change someone’s mind. Thanks for the work you put in, Dirk. Keep up the good work!

    1. Husker_Mort says:

      Here, here!

    2. joey says:

      Adam, it’s called courage. This country lacks it. Oh, they’ll join the service and go to war. But where’s that courage when politicians are taking their rights away from them. WE are the ONLY country that doesn’t stand up to it’s own goverment.. That’s so pathetic.

  5. Susie says:

    As long as ANY INDIVIDUAL does not impose sexual orientation on another co-worker or representative – on the job, and the interaction remained neutral, there should not be any harm or foul. Sexual orientation is not an item to be checked on a job application, and should not be discussed in an interview. It would appear to me that if the subject is surfaced it should be dismissed as irrelevant and not pertinent to the discussion. Any other impression or degree of would be grounds for litigation or discrimination. Remaining partial or neutal is best.

  6. Lonnie says:

    Quit beating a lame horse please. The man has a Right to state his opinions, like them or not. I support his Right to free speech, and I back his position.

  7. ScottnIA says:

    Well written, thought provoking commentary! It has taken courage for both you and Coach Brown to share your views. It’s easy for others to cast the stone, especially from thousands of miles away without ever having met the person. My one concern with this situation is that by being outspoken, Coach Brown has somewhat ‘trembled’ the foundation of the many positives he has created over the years. Ultimately, it’s not for us to judge, but to be faithful. Too bad our culture has evolved to uncivil discourse and mudslinging rather than mature, thoughtful discussions. Keep up the good work…!

  8. NUCORNDEVIL says:

    This is a perfect opportunity to release dead weight, free up some funds, and hire a much needed, qualified, stud QB coach.

    1. NUCORNDEVIL says:

      My Candidates are:
      Dub Maddox
      John Bond
      George Whitfield Jr.
      Will Hewlett

      1. wihusker says:

        Let’s see: a high school coach, the Georgia State offensive coordinator, and two free-lance camp-runners. Good stuff. Where my I subscribe to your newsletter?

        1. CORNANGEL says:

          He has already publicly stated that he wants Pelini fired and replaced with a career NFL running backs coach (Tom Rathman).

          Everything he has ever written would have been screened in the Voice from the Grandstand days.

        2. NUCORNDEVIL says:

          Who else would you hire just to be just a QB coach?
          Have you seen the low rent coaches on staff so far?
          Do you seriously believe Osborne and Co. are going to spend any money on someone with real appeal?
          Tom Rathman has forgotten more about football, than Pelini will ever comprehend.

      2. n0 on3 says:

        Gotta say I don’t agree with you on much, but QB coaching is one area in which NU is extremely lacking. And these choices are a heck of a lot better than Tom Rathman for head coach.

    2. CORNANGEL says:

      It seems every article is a perfect opportunity for you to push your coach firing agenda so that you can have your Nebraska program savior Tom Rathman at the helm. It could be worse, you could have a bromance man-crush instead on Houston Nutt. Is Pelini too alpha dog for your refined blogging taste?

      I am surprised that your QB coach list wasn’t the following:

      Scott Frost
      Tom Sorely
      Mike Grant
      Gerry Gadowski
      Jamaal Lord
      David Humm
      Curt Dukes

    3. joey says:

      NUCORNDEVIL ???? Are you tired or something??? How can you forget Barney??? It’s NOT like he’s been any major influence for the team, at ANY level!!!

  9. Brian says:

    We are never going to get this blog shut down at this rate. Where are all the radicals? Way to go Dirk, a heart felt reasonable post of honesty, and everyone is cum bay yah. Next time just link some articles to some racy national article or an article written by Pat Roberts or something.

    1. JoBlo says:

      Hey Brian, I believe that was Rick Reilly on Friday’s Mad Chatter. I agree though, a much better article for 7 May.

  10. Josh says:

    Post Rick Reilly and I’ll gladly go ballistic. That guy is garbage.

  11. Football? says:

    This is a blog about football. Touch and feel all you want. This topic belongs somewhere else.

    Stop trying to cash in on the topic Dirk. Your opinion is as valuable as this response. It’s worthless.

    The only difference is I’m willing to admit it.

    GBR and MOVE ON!

  12. Savage Husker says:

    The one statement every “journalist” has left out is that Ron Brown was advocating that no group have special protection by law. Unfortunately that message was overshadowed by juicier story lines, a mistake by Brown and “journalists” everywhere. No change will occur until every group is ACCEPTED, NOT TOLERATED. Until some drastic event that occurs that affects every single individual personally, so that everywhere wakes up and smells the coffee, there will be no change. This nation and the world will be humbled, eventually.

    1. huskerred says:

      Finally one person understands what Ron Brown was trying to convey. Well said!

    2. Mike Caramba says:

      Ron Brown: “I have and will embrace every player I coach, gay or straight … but I won’t embrace a legal policy that supports a lifestyle that God calls sin.”

      Very different from: “The LGBT community will not be accepted as equals until everyone is accepted as equal,” or whatever you’re suggesting.

    3. n0 on3 says:

      Including homosexuals in a non-discrimination policy would not be granting them special protection, it would be granting them the same protection every other group (gender, race, religion, etc.) already has.

  13. b says:

    If nu was still winning national championships coach brown could say anything he wanted and noone would listen to all the clowns making such a big deal of this. Peter Singer from Princeton says its cool for people to hook up with animals. What coach brown said is not that big of deal. People need to grow some thicker skin!!

  14. Gus says:

    Thank you for this article. I think many of us are struggling with this situation right now. I have a lot of respect for Mr. Brown and while I don’t agree with his stance on this issue, I think he is a good man trying to live according to his faith. His feelings against homosexuality, however misguided I think they are, are just one part of the whole person. Hopefully it’s a part that will change over time.

  15. ryno says:

    Hmmm. Do you know Ron Brown enough…to the core of his being, to call him a bigot? Do you know what he truly believes deep inside….what compassion truly lies in his heart? Have you sat down and had a lengthy personal conversation with him to gain insight and the full context to his stance on the matter to be well versed enough to call him a bigot? I know I haven’t and for that reason, I don’t judge him on the merit of these isolated comments that he has made. I don’t believe you are in a better position to judge him, any more than me or anyone in the local or national media.

    Whether I agree with him or not is irrelevant (in fact, I don’t agree with his stance on the propposed legislation) but I’m sure there is more depth and greater complexities to his views than can be properly expressed through the media. I am also not short-sighted enough to believe that he speaks on behalf of my University (I am an alum). What I do know is that people such as yourself will rush to judgment and paint him as someone who does, because everyone wants a poster child that they can point to in order to further THEIR own agenda. In truth, his view point is just another example of the diversity of the people, students and staff affiliated with the University. If the “enlightened” majority feel that gays and lesbians should not be discriminated against because that is in line with their own morality or the University’s policy, should we also not dicrimiate against a person like Ron Brown; a faithful, evangelical Christian who has a deep rooted belief in one particular interpretation of the bible? Rushing to judgment of Ron Brown is complete hypocrisy.

    Based on the brief comment you made here and that being the only context through which I know of you, I could say that your self-righteous rush to judgment and calling him a bigot makes you as much a bigot against someone of his views as you purport him to be bigoted against gays and lesbians. And him “using his position” as a pulpit is no different than you coming to this World Herald website and publicly stating your opinion. Anyone can choose not to listen to him…just as they can choose to ignore your comments. You obviously find his comments offensive. Well, personally I find your comments offensive, which is ironic, because I believe we are on the same side of the issue. However, I’m not in a rush to judge you, because I don’t know you from Adam.

    I’m a huge Husker fan, but Ron Brown’s stature wields no meaningful influence in my personal life, views or spirituality, because he is a Husker coach, nor does it bother me that he is passionate enough to publicly state his view. In fact, at least with Ron Brown you know what you are getting. Who knows what other people (staff members, atheletes, regular students, etc) really stand for down to their core, when they don’t come out and publicly state it? How do we know that they are not bigots of the worst kind in other arenas of life? Yet, because they don’t stand on the mountaintop and proclaim their beliefs, they somehow by default deserve more respect? That to me, makes no sense. Ron Brown should be torn down for stating who he is and what he believs in? Heck, how do I know that you are not a bigot against minorities, specific genders, sexual identification, etc. yourself? I don’t know. and because I don’t know you and I will not judge you for what you have said or what you may be keeping secret. I take your comments with a grain of salt and realize those comments are isolated. Perhaps you are the most compassionate, tolerant person someone could ever come to know…. My whole point is that maybe you need to step back and rethink your own public stance and how that could be perceived.

    If the powers that be believe he is a leader of men and his personal views do not negatively impact those he leads or represents, then I have no problem with it. Step back off of your pedestal, lest you be judged by others. People need to know when not to throw stones, because they don’t realize those stones can circle around and hit them in the back of their own head without warning.

    1. joey says:

      Wow, and people say I write a book when I’m on here…lol.

  16. Josh the Skeptic says:

    I think the most interesting thing about this is that Brown is clearly a good man, he’s a fundamentally decent man, and a literal interpretation causes him to defend an indefensible bigoted position. Based on the current precedents of anti-discrimination law in this country, and the realities if what psychiatrists know about homosexual behavior, opposing this measure is completely indefensible. We don’t allow religious rationale to excuse racial discrimination so why would we allow it for gays?

    So why would a decent man take an indefensible and bigoted position? It’s religion, and lots of people phone in their ethics in exactly the same way. They make strange slippery slope arguments (“if we ignore the Bible on gays we’ll do the same for pedophilia…” As if anyone with any ethical sense can’t see the difference.), they insult the ethics of those who don’t live by holy books, and they defend stuff like this that’s ethically counterintuitive. This is what scares secularists like me, about the religious.

    1. Thom says:

      Josh I just wanted to state that although I disagree with a lot of what you say I appreciate the eloquence and purity of your argument. You do not spew hate towards those that disagree with you. You merely point out your disagreemant. Although we may disagree thank you for the well though out counter point.

  17. TexasHusker says:

    Brown is well within his rights to state his opinion about his religious beliefs. Ron Brown is not Congress, and one man publicly stating his religious beliefs does not transform America into an evangelical theocracy. Read the First Amendment again, please.

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    Brown isn’t creating a national religion. He’s exercising his First Amendment rights. The FIRST right named in the Bill of Rights is the right to religious freedom, and the right to Free Speech. All Brown did was “peaceably assemble (and) petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    In every single aspect of this case, Brown was well within his rights. No one is forcing you to subscribe to his beliefs. No one is dragging you out of your Sunday bed and forcing you to attend church. No one is silencing your opposition to his belief system.

    That said, this is supposed to be a SPORTS BLOG.

    How about we stop dividing Husker Nation along political lines, and stick to discussing our beloved Big Red?

    If you want to attack Ron Brown’s beliefs, write another letter to the editor.

  18. Mountainman@ says:

    Many Christians are being intimidated and silenced by a well-funded and polically powerful homosexual lobby. Their tactics include smears, personal attacks and even violence to achieve their goals. You are a bigot or worse if you oppose them. I personally saw what happened in cities such as San Francisco when the bars were lifted. So you can look forward to public bathhouses in Omaha and Lincoln. As with the tobacco companies, it is critical for survival to seduce youth perpetuate such a lifestyle. How many Jerry Sandusky’s are there in Nebraska now? Will they claim protection under “sexual orientation?” Ron Brown understands the threat, and unlike most of the media, he has the courage to speak out on the issue.

    As for Ron Brown, those who choose to insult his character, intelligence and religious beliefs, how do you stack up against him? He was a star defensive back at Brown University, an Ivy League school, where he received his Bachelor’s Degree and is in the school’s Sports Hall of Fame. He later earned a Master’s Degree from Columbia University. He was an assistant coach at Brown for four years before he came to the Huskers in 1987.

    He is the author of several books as well as a writer for magazines. For many years he has been a leader in the Fellowship of Christian Athletes and was the FCA spokesman on race reconciliation. He also was a co-founder a Christian ministry in Nebraska that ran camps for youth from low income families. He once stated in a Husker media guide, “What’s most important to me as a coach is to assist each athlete in maximizing every God-given talent that he has.”

    So for those who think Ron Brown does not have the intelligence, character, history of good works or the right to speak publicly on matters of civic importance, then who does?
    Do you? And if you want to fire Ron Brown, then you should be ashamed of yourself.

    1. concerned says:

      look at your first paragraph White trash(mountainman) and see if that is Christian

      1. Iowa says:

        You “concerned” are not being honest.

    2. Dubl L says:

      well written and well said, some quotes for everyone, “judge not least you yourself are judged”, “he who is without sin, let him be the one to cast the first stone” and finally ” He who denys me here on earth, I will surely deny before my father in heaven” just food for thought and just saying………., when are you going to find time in your life to do this?

    3. tayllor1234 says:

      May God forever Bless Ron Brown & may God turn your bigotry and intolerance of the Christian faith into a pure heart who serves only our Lord and Creator.

    4. Thom says:

      DNH you are Proof of MM first paragraph. No where did he call for violence against the Gay community. Yet your hate carries it to that end. People can disagree without hating anyone. too many people in America have forgotten this.

      1. ClarkGriswald says:

        You don’t have to advocate violence in order to hate. Using rhetoric, that is discriminatory in nature, is being hateful.

  19. Thom says:

    Very good and fair article. Too many times in society today people confuse disagreement with bigotry, It is a fine line and I have not heard enough of what he said to know whether he crossed the line.

    1. dangerous nut house says:


      Now that’s leadership…………..

      1. Thom says:

        I beleive in facts to back up comments. Name one gay player who has not come here because of Ron Brown. Yours is a straw man argument. There is no factual basis for your statement. I have met many African Americans who intentionally went to work for bigots in the 50s and 60s in order to attempt to change or soften their views. Martin Luther King did not forward the cause of freedom by insulting and hating his enemy. Instead he chose the better path of showing white folks that there was nothing to fear from sitting next to their African American neighbors.

        1. SeattleHusker says:

          I understand your point about a straw man argument, but it’s also a bit disingenuous. Name one gay player who has played at Nebraska? Your argument to the contrary has no more basis in fact than dnh’s argument does. We can never know whether or not Ron Brown’s position has cost Nebraska any recruits, because there have not been and are not currently any out, gay players at Nebraska (or, to the best of my knowledge, any other Div I college football team).

        2. UkeOne says:

          You believe in facts to back-up comments? Then Thom: name one gay player who has played for Nebraska, period? If you can’t answer that, then how ignorant of you to ask your question!

      2. HuskerBob says:

        “Dangerous Nut House” sure applies. Ron Brown’s actions and words, as whole over years of work with the team and University, do not in any way demonstrate a hate for these players, but a love and compassion for them. This is exactly the kind of bigoted reaction that is the overreaction this “story” epitomizes. Grow up. You disagree with him. It doesn’t mean you have to start unwarranted mischaracterizations and personal attacks against Mr. Brown.

  20. Ron Brown is a man of God voicing his opinion. Just because his opinion goes against your pro homesexual agenda you have to attack him. A bigot! If believing the Bible is the Word of God and calling homosexuality a sin makes one a bigot then count me in. God’s word condemns this lifestyle period. Read Romans 1:22-32. God did not created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. I for one will not stop speaking out against this putrid lifestyle. Way to go Ron! Keep the faith and keep speaking the truth!

    1. UkeOne says:

      Romans 1:22-32…New King James Version (NKJV)
      “Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things. Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.”

      Although Ron Brown is a good person (at heart), he was and is merely voicing ‘an opinion’…his own (not God’s) ‘interpretation’ of Scripture. This passage was written by Paul, not Jesus Christ, as he address the Romans. It was an ‘interpretation’ perveived by Paul as an integral part of Jesus’ ministry. The fact is, this is only interpretative at best, as the contents of this passage was ‘never quoted or taught’ by Jesus Christ at all! I am a good man, and I could interpret the passage you gave as: ‘GOD’ being the sole culprit in mankind’s sins since it was He who handed mankind over to all the vile acts mentioned in the passage (by Paul). The truth is, if Jesus (who was, is and will always be GOD) didn’t quote any of this nor used it in His ministry, then how can a Christian (a follower of Jesus Christ) assume that this is a ‘Christian” belief? If Jesus didn’t say it, then it is NOT Christian…and Paul’s interpretations have been seriously mistaken as that of Jesus’s…As long as Ron continues to make public his ‘opinions’ about something that the Lord, ‘God’ & Savior, Jesus Christ, didn’t address, then he ‘should be’attacked’ for being the ‘bigot’ he is. His opinions are divisive, opinionated & dangerous to everyone!

      Jesus spoke of only 2 commandments to follow: to love God…etc…and to love your neighbor as you would love yourself! Take heed, Ron, for these are ‘indeed’ wise words coming directly from GOD and NOT from man!!!

      1. UkeOne says:

        …sorry about the misspelling: “perceived”…please don’t be intolerant and hateful of ‘misspellers’ (LOL) and send me to hell…! After all, we are all God’s created, however imperfect!

  21. “Professing to be wise, they became fools.” Romans 1:22


    1. Husker_Mort says:

      “Love one-another.”

      1. Adam says:

        Exodus 35:2
        2 Six days work shall be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death.
        So should we kill all the NFL players or not take a book written thousands of years ago literally?

        1. BallField78 says:

          That’s why they “play” football. :))

    2. HuskerBob says:

      Man, you left out the best, and most relevant, part: Romans 1:24, 25 — “Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever, Amen.”

      1. UkeOne says:

        Romans 1:24, 25 — “Wherefore ‘God’ also gave them up to uncleanness…etc”

        Man’s interpretation: God was the culprit to all of mankind’s sins, since He gave them up to the uncleanliness, lusts, etc. Is ‘God’ responsible for this? Wow, how taking one word out of context can create such a stir (aka. Ron Brown)! This passage was Paul’s interpretation to the Romans of Jesus’s teachings, even though Jesus did not preach this at any time during His ministry! Man’s interpretation of Scrpture can be both very powerful and dangerous…like the ‘current-day Republicans’ knowing exactly what the Forefathers meant in the writing of the Constitution (what? were they there or something?)…If the Forefathers meant to say what the Republicans claim to know, then our Forefathers would have written it as such! Likewise with Jesus: if He meant to codemn homosexuality, ‘He’ (who was, is and will always be ‘GOD’) would have written it, and it would be quoted in the Gospels. It’s NOT!!!

    3. UkeOne says:

      “Professing to be wise, they became fools.” Ron Brown 1:22

  22. One more thing! My image of Ron Brown was cemented forever when he knelt and lead over 150 Nebraska and Penn State Players at Penn State last fall. His heart for His Lord and Savior and for all those young men, especially the Penn State players who were hurting emotionally puts him above and beyond the stupidity of those who are trying to attack him!

  23. Gunner O says:

    Anybody wanna bet if Ron Brown spoke out supporting gays that he would then be hailed by the media as a hero? I’m getting so sick and tired of people being villianized for simply stating their views when those views aren’t deemed to be pollitically correct. Seems nowdays the only people that are entitled to freedom of speech without being drug through the mud are those who speak out against traditional values. And if you don’t agree with them, they’ll pull out their favorite word – “bigot”.

    I can’t wait for the season to begin so the Big Red blogs can focus on something like FOOTBALL instead of a coaches personal viewpoints.

    1. Husker_Mort says:

      Interesting angle, Gunner. I doubt that this situation would have “blown over” if Coach Brown was, instead, PROMOTING gay marriage or professing the practice of Islam. He benefits from coaching in a mostly Christian, mostly conservative state that has allowed — through acquiescence — his perspective to go largely unchallenged.

      As a liberal activist — or one that touted any other religion — the political pressure on the University may have been too great by now.

      1. Gunner O says:

        You may be right Husker-Mort. I guess the way the world is now one simply cannot voice their opinion (whatever it may be on whatever subject) without aquiring a one of two labels – bigot or liberal nut.

        Think I’ll just stick to talking football and go with the label “fan”.

    2. UkeOne says:

      “I’m getting so sick and tired of people being villianized for simply stating their views when those views aren’t deemed to be pollit…oops! religiously correct.”

  24. mike says:

    I have not been a fan of your’s in the past, but this is a brilliant piece, and thanks for writing it.
    I loved reading this and will read it again. I just feel bad for the people here who are so angry and short-sighted in all of this.

  25. Gabe says:

    Human marrying a Human is how marriage should be defined. Love is Love. If Christians are allowed to believe in a deity that can’t no one can prove the existence w/o pointing to a tree or a mouse, then why should homosexuals have to prove that they’re born that way and not choosing it. How we chose define ourselves shouldn’t be JUST w/ our religious beliefs…because not all of us are religious and not all of us believe in the same deity. We should choose to live in harmony and accept who we all are regardless of who we choose to love or which God we choose to worship or not worship. These are the “freedoms” or “privileges” are fore fathers had in mind. Not Everyone BUT…

    1. Gabe says:

      Sorry for the miss typed grammar there and the left out ‘o’ in choose. Typed it from an Android. :-)

  26. HuskerBob says:

    Dirk: Well said and balanced. I too am a Christian but I understand that the USA is not Israel of the Old Testament; not a theocracy and certainly not “a Christian nation,” nor has it ever been. Those people who think this nation was once “Christian” simply ignore the historical evidence. It has been a highly religious nation over the years, but there is no intersection between that and Bible based Christianity. Consequently, I agree with what you say about actions like Ron Brown’s not doing any good service for our country or true Christianity in general. I also agree that the real thrust of what he is trying to present is that no special interest group should get special treatment, which IS the homosexual agenda in this country. The proposed ordinance and similar laws are nonstarters because homosexuals should not, and generally are not, discriminated against, by non-Christians and Christians alike. However, giving this group special benefits, such as the rights of marriage that has always been associated with the joinder of a man and a woman since the beginning of time, is untenable. And this is true whether you call it a marriage, civil union, or anything else.

    Again, well put and balanced analysis. Keep up the good work Dirk.

    1. joey says:

      You’re right this isn’t Israel. Over there they stand up to their goverment. Here we,… I mean in the USA we… What I meant was, if OUR goverment pushes us around we… Ok you’re right this isn’t Israel.

  27. Ryan says:

    Welcome to the new Nebraska “Sodom and Gomorrah”. I moved back to my home state from the Godless state of Colorado and this is what I get. Nebraskans should pat themselves on the back for joining the ranks of California and Colorado. Join the rest of the “I hate God States” and “God is a bigot because He has a moral standard”. Love you sins all you want because there is only one place for them “Hell”. “Repent or else”. that is what our Loving Jesus said.

    1. Ryan says:

      Psalm 11:3 “If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?

      The sissy Christians on this site better get down on their knees and start praying. Stick to what the bible says and don’t be persuaded by this world. Don’t act like you are confused and don’t understand what you should believe. Sin comes in many forms and sexual immorality (hetero, homo, etc.) is a big one these days in this perverted God Hating American culture we live in.

    2. John says:

      “Love you sins all you want because there is only one place for them “Hell”. “Repent or else”. that is what our Loving Jesus said.”

      How nice of God for “loving” me enough to threaten me with eternal torture if I don’t become his lifelong slave. Literalist Christianity may be a totalitarian farce, but props to Dirk for writing this article.

      1. UkeOne says:

        “Love you sins all you want because there is only one place for them “Hell”. “Repent or else”… that is what our Loving Westboro Baptist Church preacher said.” Stench!!!

  28. CBHusker84 says:

    While I disagree with Coach Brown’s views, I will defend his right to express them. Furthermore, I respect him for expressing his opinion, no matter how unpopular that opinion might be to some. I wish he hadn’t used Memorial Stadium as his address, as that could be perceived as “on behalf of the University of Nebraska”, but that’s the only real problem I have with the situation.

  29. NUCORNDEVIL says:

    All Theology is a fairytale, Ron Brown needs the axe, wasn’t he fired by Osborne b4?
    I would bet money Ron Brown has had sex with several men.

    1. Gabe says:

      I don’t think Ron needs to be judged on his one and only opinion of homosexuality, based on his love for all people. He disagrees w/ it, he doesn’t discriminate against them. Although I agree on your feelings of theology and people quoting the bible as if it means anything. I can quote Harry Potter or Superman…it’s as credible as a bible. But, I believe Ron Brown has proven to be a good person, because he holds strong to his convictions, doesn’t make him a bad person…just makes him a “faithful” person. As long as treats each member of the team as an equal, I could careless what deity he worships or who he believes to be a sinner. My opinion anyway…

      1. UkeOne says:

        Gabe says: “I don’t think Ron needs to be judged on his one and only opinion of homosexuality, based on his love for all people. He disagrees w/ it, he doesn’t discriminate against them.”

        Yes! That’s exactly why he spoke before the Omaha Cirty Council: to preach his ‘love’ for ‘all’ people…! OMG! LOL!!!

        1. UkeOne says:

          ops! I meant to say: city (not certy)…how ‘ignorant’ of me! Omaha must now deem be ‘a bigot! I wonder if St. Paul addresses this in Romans? “Thou shalt not mispel the name of your city in vain!” LOL!

          1. NUCORNDEVIL says:

            I LOVE THIS!!!!!!
            Thank you Gabe, I say this all the time to bible thumpers!
            Gabe says:
            May 8, 2012 at 8:48 am
            “I can quote Harry Potter or Superman…it’s as credible as a bible.”

          2. Gabe says:

            Well when the City Council asks a devout Christian what his views are on homosexuality…what do you think their answer is? It would be like asking a Jewish person their views on Christmas and Easter…what do you expect?

  30. Jeff says:

    For decades, I could see an attack on Ron Brown’s beliefs coming. Leave it to the OWH to eventually get to it. Must be a particularly slow news cycle for you guys. Is this the hill you want to be crucified on? Really?

    1. NUCORNDEVIL says:

      Please, Ron Brown is, and always has been, a bible thumper, dude cannot put a sentence together without the words jesus christ in it.
      I remember going to games in Lincoln where R. Brown would be outside the stadium on a soap box vomiting scripture.
      Dude is a fanatic, need to keep weapons, and children away from him.

      1. Ryan says:

        We Christians will be praying for you. Ron Brown included that you will come to know Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Jesus hates it more that anyone to see someone perish in Hell for eternity

        1. NUCORNDEVIL says:

          save all your ‘prayers’ 4 Pelini, i’ll be just fine without your hocus pocus…………

          1. Rock says:

            Hey NUCORNDEVIL – Just because you can describe your boyfriend’s bellybutton in great detail is no reason to lash out like that.

      2. joey says:

        So you are turning your back on your savior??? I’m NOT!!!!! Christ is my savior, my Lord, and my BEST FRIEND!!!! I really hope you realize what you just wrote CornDevil. I really REALLY pray for you, I really do.

  31. Bret h says:

    I cannot believe that people cannot accept the fact that homosexuality is not a choice. It’s not. Sexual preferences, likes or dislikes, are not conscious decisions. Things like that lie at the core of our consciousness. I can no more choose to be gay than a gay man can choose to be straight. My heart won’t pump backward. And if people can get the notion through their head that it is not a choice then all this goes away. Bible is a guide to good living. However it should not be a end all be all. The bible condones slavery! The main messages came from god but the bible was still put on paper by a man. And that’s where we come in with our intelligence, logic, reason, and compassion and decide what WE feel is right. Not a book that is over 2000 years old

    1. Ryan says:

      You hit the nail on the head. The age of “moral relavitism” whatever we feel is correct. I believe that is what Satan said to Eve in the garden. “Do what thou will (feel)”.

      1. Gabe says:

        Human marrying a Human is how marriage should be defined. Love is Love. If Christians are allowed to believe in a deity that can’t be proven, then why should homosexuals have to prove that they’re born that way and not choosing it??? How we choose define ourselves shouldn’t be JUST w/ our religious beliefs…because not all of us are religious and not all of us believe in the same deity. We should choose to live in harmony and accept who we all are regardless of who we choose to love or which God we choose to worship or not worship. These are the “freedoms” or “privileges” are fore fathers had in mind. Not Everyone BUT…

        1. Ryan says:

          The reprobate atheist Ben Franklin believed and said this nation can only stand on the foundation of the Bible. He demanded that everyone during those times learn how to read so they can read the bible. It is self evident that God of the bible exists. Do you have a conscious? Without a conscious we would be wondering around like animals with no soul who can’t think and decide the difference between right and wrong. Take a look at history and look at all the other nations that have taken on humanism for its religion. They no longer exist.

          1. Gabe says:

            Yes, they also believed in ghosts and witches back then…and encouraged slavery. We must evolve past the magical and mythological…this world was no more created by an invisible Giant than we were created by 2 people who created by sin by eating a piece of fruit given to them by a giant reptile. None of that makes any sense…Neither does it seem logical to punish people based on their love for a human that doesn’t meet your or your invisible Giant’s ideas. Your book says homosexuals are evil…they also say we need to stone people for working on Sundays. It appears to be a la carte’.

          2. BallField78 says:

            Actually, the traditional Jewish Sabbath is Saturday. And the days did not have their current names, which were taken from Roman and Norse gods. And I believe it was Pope Gregory that totally screwed up the calendar. So I have to wonder which day is really the Sabbath? Perhaps it doesn’t matter. Some businesses close on Mondays so they can serve people on Sundays, for example.

          3. UkeOne says:

            The Jewish Sabbath is Saturday, but you are speaking of Christianity (not Judiaism). Your Sabbath is, therefore, Sunday. So, it is biblically logical, therefore, to ‘kill you’ if you work on Sunday. You see, applying “Jewish’ beliefs attested in the Old Testament to Christianity is like mixing water and oil. And since you attribute Jewish Law as it existed then, then apply ‘all of it’…kind of gives ‘acceptance and the foundation of the Bible’ a whole new meaning, doesn’t it?

        2. NUCORNDEVIL says:

          Solid Gabe!

      2. Bret h says:

        Yes. I feel compassion. I feel love for my fellow humans, my fellow brothers and sisters of God. If you feel that it is Satan guiding my feelings on that matter than I doubt we would be able to see eye to eye

    2. Gabe says:

      I don’t want to be the anti-religion guy here. I believe religion has it’s place. I know too many people who couldn’t live on this planet knowing their God didn’t exist. I would never want to take that away from them. I believe in what Ryan said “Love Thy Neighbor”. (Sorry Ryan I summarized). The real crime here is they went to Ron Brown (who we all know who Ron Brown is and what he stands for), and asked him how he feels about Gay Rights? Why not ask a Jewish person their opinion on Christmas? Stupid! Now he should’ve answered the question as Ron Brown the Coach instead of Ron Brown the minister…but still, lets judge Ron Brown on his body of work, not as the coach who views Homosexuality as a sin. HE says he will treat all players equally, after everything he has shown us, we have no reason to NOT taking him for his word. But if he locks them in a shed, benches him, or won’t play him for being gay, or punches them in the face…then we have a legitimate beef. But, until then, this man has been proven to be a model coach and a cool individual. In my opinion, drop the subject…this should come as a shock to no one. Heck TO believed the same way and no one thinks he still doesn’t walk on water! :-)

    3. joey says:

      Bret, NO book eh? Then right there you have lost your faith in the Lord. Wow you are so lost my friend. You know scientists ENDLESSLY try to prove Christ didn’t exist. The more they look. The more they find he did exist.

      1. Gabe says:

        Bret youre right! Don’t change your beliefs! Religion is in the heart! (Hebrews 4:12, James 1:26)… Just because I don’t believe it, doesn’t mean I never read it! Worship in your own way! Good talk man!

  32. roger says:

    The real question about homsexuality is wheter a person is born that way or wheter there is a choice in the matter. The fact of the matter is there is no reliable concrete evidence that proves homosexuallity is something that a person has no choice in the matter. It is a fact however that there are many who have been in this lifestyle and are no longer living that life, which would suggest that homosexuality is not like race or nationality. We live in a society where we try to justify whatever lifestyle we want to live, just say i was born that way, and that takes care of it. Finally let me just say that Jesus demonstrated both love and truth. He never sacrificed one for the other. As christians we are to speak the truth in love. Love without truth is an anything goes society, where immorality reigns, and truth without love is society filled with arrogance, and hate. The two must go hand in hand.

  33. Mike S. says:

    Dirk – thanks for offering your perspective on this polarizing topic; best piece written on it that I have seen.

  34. Cam says:

    Dirk, you did good. Now, I usually don’t care for your opinionated, journalist-centric pieces, but I have to hand it to you on this one.
    While I can’t say that I agree with absolutely all of Ron Brown’s opinions, I respect him. You can’t praise his convictions that led to the nationally-televised prayer at Penn State and then demonize him for those same convictions. I’ll leave it at that.

  35. Mike says:

    I don’t understand how people don’t see Homosexuality as a sin in the Bible. God destroyed a city because of Sodomy and Homosexuality. Please consider the following passages of scripture..Genesis 19:4-8a “But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? Bring them out unto us, that we may know them. And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes:”

    Why is Ron Brown standing against protection for homosexuals? Probably because if there is a sin thy can bring Gods judgment upon a nation quickly it is homosexuality. Denying homosexuality as a sin is a flat out rejection of Gods Word. Also see Romans chapter 1 which is also very clear on the error of homosexuality.

    1. Adam says:

      Leviticus 25:44
      As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you.
      So we can buy Mexican and Canadian slaves by your logic.
      Leviticus 19:19
      You shall keep my statutes. You shall not let your cattle breed with a different kind. You shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor shall you wear a garment of cloth made of two kinds of material
      So no cotton, poly blend shirts, if you are wearing one, you are a sinner.

      1. Mike says:

        Then how about the Ten Commandments..are those obsolete as well because it’s the Old Testament? Go ahead and kill, go ahead and committ adultery, go ahead and’s the Old Testament, so it doesn’t apply anymore..huh? Certainly, there are things in the Old Testament that don’t apply to us anymore, however, to take this argument against a sin that God called “wicked” would be a terrible error. Please also consider Romans 1:26,27 of the New Testament. The problem is your heart condition..and I speak in love as a Christian. Jesus said the heart is “deceitful and desperately wicked”. You must let God give you a new heart cleansed of sin by repentance and faith in Jesus Christ.

        1. UkeOne says:

          The Old Testament is not obsolete…just outdated; in fact, in the new Testament, Jesus came to fulfil the ‘old law’ by ‘replacing it’ with His ‘two commandments’: “to love God…etc.” and to ‘love your neighbor as you would yourselves.” In doing so, Jesus knew that if these precepts were followed, then all of God’s 10 commandments would be followed as well. How wise of the Lord to make ‘love’ the central focal-point of His teachings on earth. After all, He was, is & will always be God! As far as Romans 1:26-27: “Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts…etc.”, it was written by Paul, not Jesus Christ. No where in the New Testament does Jesus address these issues, Yet, Paul (as good a man as he was) addressed the Romans with his own ‘interpretations’ of Jesus’ teachings, even though Jesus did not address them. It’s like the Republicans saying that ‘they know ‘exactly’ what the Forefathers meant…etc. Interpretation, however well-meant, is exactlty that: interpretation, not fact! Paul interpreted Jesus’ ministry; the Republicans interpreted the Forefathers in their own way & to their benefit; and, Ron Brown interpreted his beliefs of scripture (publically), thus getting th current ‘public response’ he so deserves! Interpretation can be so dangerous…just ask the religious zealots and the Republicans…no matter how well-intended their actions were or are…they are dangerous to everyone!

          1. UkeOne says:

            Romans 1:26-27: “Because of this, ‘God’ gave them over to shameful lusts…etc.” This kind of puts God as ‘the culprit’ of all the sins of humankind, doesn’t it? This is an example of the power (and danger) of human interpretation!

      2. Andrew says:

        This argument is old and boring, Adam. But for the reader’s sake, I’ll indulge you. If you knew Scripture, you’d know there is a difference between the ritualistic portion of the Levitical laws and commands given to all of mankind. The ritualistic Levitical laws were given to Israel to distinguish themselves as God’s people and point to the coming of Christ. Many of them did not deal with moral absolutes, but rather illustrations of what was to come.

        1. Adam says:

          So you can cherry pick parts of the bible you want to enforce. Also, where are dinosaurs in the bible? Isn’t the no to gays part in the old testament also?

          1. joey says:

            Hey Adam, where’s Steve?

          2. Adam says:

            Riding dinosaurs or has christens call them “Jesus horses.”

          3. jeff says:

            where’s the giraffes and puppy dogs? Asteroids? This isn’t an earth history book……it’s God’s word.

    2. SeattleHusker says:

      If this is what you believe your religion tells you, then you’re entitled to your belief. That is protected by the Constitution. But there’s a big difference between your private, religious belief and translating that into a governmental proscription of others’ behavior, especially when they do not share your belief. Why is that so difficult to understand?

      1. Mike says:

        No, religion does not tell me this – the Bible does. As a Christian, it is my duty to follow the Bible with all my heart and to spread the gospel and tell others the Word of God. Christianity is not a private matter for Christians. It is our duty to tell others the truth because it is the truth that sets people free from sin and delivers from Hell.

        If government is going to make the laws of this land that will affect lives and most importantly what God thinks about a people than they better look to God and His Word to make sure it’s right and pleasing to Him. They better look to people that know the Bible to see if the decision they are making is pleasing to God. That’s all Ron Brown was doing was telling the city council to consider the Word of God. He was not bashing homosexuals or any other persons belief. He was simply declaring the truth of the Word of God.

        1. SeattleHusker says:

          And I have no problem with Ron Brown telling the city council what he believes they should consider, as long as it is Ron Brown the individual and not Ron Brown the Nebraska football coach. But when he gives his address as Memorial Stadium and admits he uses his high-profile position with the University to give greater weight to his testimony, then it’s the football coach (and by extension the University) testifying. That’s what I take issue with.

          But your religion cannot and should not be the basis of a governmental body’s laws that affect ALL citizens, including citizens who disagree with your interpretation of your God’s word, or who believe in a different god or who believe in no god at all. Just as Ron Brown is (and all citizens are) protected by the Constitution from the government prohibiting him from testifying before the Omaha City Council, I am (and all citizens are) protected by the Constitution from one religion using the government to force its religious principles on others.

          1. Mike says:

            Once again, your second reply is also making the assumption of forcing somebody. Ron Brown did not force his beliefs on anybody, he simply gave the Word of God for consideration and thought. Anybody can believe what they want but that won’t stop Christians from declaring the truth and trying to convince people of it. We are going full circle here and not really getting anywhere.

            I agree with you on the Memorial address thing, however I don’t really think that’s ALL you have an issue with. I think the underlying issue here that you have is actually with the truth. Thats really what people are crucifying Brown for. Not that he put Memorial Stadium for the address. They crucified Christ because of the truth that he spoke. We as Christians don’t expect anything less, and it certainly is not going to stop us from sharing the truth.

          2. SeattleHusker says:

            Perhaps “forcing” was not my best choice of words. As I said, I’m fine with Ron Brown sharing his religious beliefs with the city council. I just don’t believe that his religious beliefs (or anyone else’s, for that matter) are the proper basis for legislation that will be applicable to everyone, including others who do not share his religious beliefs. If there are other non-religious reasons for proposed legislation, great. But once one group’s religion becomes the basis for a government’s laws, that government is establishing a religion (which, under the U.S. constitution, it is prohibited from doing).

            Finally, I feel the need to point out that you’re engaging in your own hyperbole. Ron Brown may have been subject to a lot of criticism for his testimony, but he certainly was not crucified.

  36. Del Kentner says:

    Good thinking, good piece. Well said.

  37. Brian says:

    If I claim to be a Christian and then make up my own rules to fit my feelings then I would be a fake. The Bible is my foundation and in the Bible in the NEW TESTIMANT in 1 Corinthians 6:9 homosexuallity is refered to as wrong. All sins are wrong so we really can’t distinguish one being worse than the other. The difference is justification of sins. Do we sin and then tell others it is not really a sin and then try to influence others just the same? THIS IS WHAT RON BROWN IS AGAINST. WE ARE ALL SINNERS BUT WHEN WE TRY MAKE A SIN INTO A NON-SIN THEN WE ARE INFLUENCING OTHERS TO DO WRONG! I believe that some are born with the attraction to the same sex and or both sex’s. I also believe that many men who are married are attracted to other women other than their wives. These are temptations that we need to resist. I was born to be attracted to my wife and many other women but it doesnt mean that I have the right to have multiple affairs. We are all born with temptations which is natural but we should not entertain them or give into them. The Bible is specific in the Old and New Testimate about homosexuality being wrong just like many other sins. Please do not tell people that you are a Christian and then contradict the Bible. You have only used the Christian name and modified the rules for your comfort and pleasures.

    1. Andrew says:

      Right on brother!

  38. Andrew says:

    You can’t pit God’s commands against each other. Hating homosexuality and loving your neighbor are BOTH consistent with the nature of God. The question is what loving your gay neighbor really looks like. Would it be loving for a doctor to keep his mouth shut if his patient was dying of cancer? Likewise, Scripture teaches us that true love is calling your neighbor to repent of his sin, including sodomy. Many who call themselves Christians worship their own fictional god who loves sodomites or adulterers or fornicators too much to send them to hell. Are you more loving than God? Try conforming your logic to God’s Word, not “your god” to your logic. You arent’ a Christian unless you worship the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob Who revealed Himself to us through Scripture. You can’t accept God’s grace while rejecting His justice.

    1. SeattleHusker says:

      So, if I’m following the analogy correctly, Christians are doctors and homosexuality is a cancer?

  39. Jacob says:

    We don’t need to define marriage. God has done that already. People have the God given right to choose him or not. However, as Christians we should treat homosexual people with love – like God wants us to. Am I saying that gay marriage should be legal? No. But homosexuals shouldn’t be discriminated against. We may disagree with their lifestyle but if we treat them like dirt, is there any chance they will find Jesus and be saved? Of course not!!!! That is why we need to show them love and let God do his work.

    1. Sker Fan says:


    2. NUCORNDEVIL says:

      “If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
      I’m feelin the love…..
      What if I was a football coach who preached atheism?

      1. n0 on3 says:

        If Ron Brown constantly told his players there is no God, went around giving speeches on atheism, and couldn’t talk for more than 10 seconds without mentioning the lack of a God, then his coaching career would have been very short.

  40. Jacob says:


    You are misunderstanding. That is from the old testament. We are not bound by that law anymore.

    1. Adam says:

      When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination… End of debate.

      I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God’s Laws and how to follow them.

      1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?

      2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

      3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness – Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

      4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

      5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath.Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

      6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination – Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there ‘degrees’ of abomination?

      7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle- room here?

      8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

      9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

      10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16.

      Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

      I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.

      1. NUCORNDEVIL says:

        LMAOROTF!!! You my friend, should be doing stand up comedy…… so serious!

      2. Dave says:

        Simply brilliant! Well done!

      3. UkeOne says:

        Man, you are awesome! I laughed so hard, I couldn’t hold-back the pee! Now, let’s wait for another ‘I am holier than thou’ response from those Old Testament buggers.
        I love it!

      4. Huell Howser says:

        Adam is my hero.

      5. n0 on3 says:

        The Bible was also one of the first sources of p0rn. One of my favorite verses: “Yet she increased her prostitution, remembering the days of her youth when she engaged in prostitution in the land of Egypt. She lusted after their genitals – as large as those of donkeys, and their seminal emission was as strong as that of stallions.” Ezekiel 23:19-20 NET

      6. BallField78 says:

        1. Because they speak English and understand your BS
        2. Not much, I’ve seen her.
        3. By the smell.
        4. Use more BBQ sauce.
        5. Do you live in Florida?
        6. Yes. I’ll explain it over lunch while we BBQ your son.
        7. Get Lasik.
        8. Get stoned.
        9. No, I’ve seen you play.
        10. No, they can get stoned with just a few of their friends.
        11. This BBQ thing is getting kind of big.

        All in jest, of course.

    2. joey says:

      YES we are. What it stood for then, it stands now. Just because the times have changed, does NOT mean the BIBLE, JESUS, or GOD has.

      1. Adam says:

        So can you answer any of the above questions?

        1. Adam says:

          Can anyone. Come at me Bro

  41. n0 on3 says:

    First of all, even if you don’t agree with his views, Ron Brown has a right to believe that homosexuality is a sin and to say so in public. However, a religious fanatic like Brown cannot even his own hypocrisy. In his letter to the Journal Star, he states that he “wholeheartedly” agrees with UNL’s Non-Discrimination Policy which protects homosexuals. However, he is against the city having a similar policy. For a true Christian discrimination in any form is considered wrong, but Brown is okay with people being able to discriminate against homosexuals, because it is a sin. In his letter to LJS, he gives the example of having sex before marriage as another sin, and he explains his view to players who do so, but doesn’t “discriminate” against them by cutting playing time.

    I would like Ron Brown to explain to me why homosexuality is different than other sins, which sins are okay to discriminate against, which sins we should not discriminate against, why Universities can have non-discrimination policies that include sexual orientation, and why cities cannot.

    The fact of the matter is it doesn’t really matter if you believe whether homosexuality is a choice or not, or if it is a sin or not – nobody should be able to be discriminated against in employment, housing, etc., because of who they fall in love with or what they do with their bodies in their own personal bedrooms. There is a little thing called separation of church and state.

  42. Phil C says:

    Nice column Dirk I’m not usually a fan of your writing but I thought this was well thought out and expressed in a way which was not inflammatory towards either side while still making several good points, too bad several national writers weren’t willing to do the same.

  43. here says:

    The “… I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.” Thomas Jefferson.

    Its freedom of Religion not from Religion.

    1. SeattleHusker says:

      Actually, it’s both. If the Constitution protects citizens from the government imposing one religion on them, it necessarily protects citizens from the government imposing any religion on them.

  44. NUCORNDEVIL says:

    I like guys though! Does that mean im a sinner?

    1. NUCORNDEVIL says:

      this subject matter may never be brought up again in the history of OWH blogging, and this is the best you can do?

  45. Football? says:

    Dirk is just happy that FINALLY one of his blog entries has as many responses as Sam normally gets.

    Fan the flames Dirk. OWH is proud of your “football” blogging. Meh.

  46. Chris M says:

    Just a poor mis-guided catholic here that believes if you’re married you’re in a same sex marrige, after you get married it’s always the same sex! The bottom line is we live in a country thats supposed to separate religion from law, and thank God we do! Neither Ron Brown or God had any buisness being at that meeting or any other legislation hearings.Dirk, I’ve always been a fan of your work b ut this article was Garbage.

    1. UkeOne says:

      LOL! All us heteros should take issue with the ‘same ol’ sex’ remark….but oh, how ‘true’ it is!!! Thanks, Chris! Good news is Ron is staying-out of Lincoln’s meeting. Either he became wise or he got a good ol’ tongue-lashing from our good friend, Perleman. Either way, he’s finally quiet (at least for now)!!!

  47. joey says:

    Dirk…. When are you going to get back to Husker football, this subject is getting real REAL old!!!!!

  48. Mountainman@ says:

    Perhaps we need to look behind the legislation and the consequences. On the surface a law against discrimination based on “sexual orientation” does not sound threatening to anyone. What bad could result from such a law? Give this some serious thought, not just knee jerk reactions and name calling.

    The fact of the matter is that this legislation is a Trojan Horse virus covered by a cloak of political correctness. Once the law is established on the books, a powerful interest group will launch a war on the Boy Scouts, Little League and other youth groups to force them to accept homosexual leaders and staff. They lost in Philadelphia when they played their “atheist card” against the Boy Scouts, but now with this new law, they stand a good chance of winning their new campaign. Backed by unlimited funds they can intimidate smaller youth groups to surrender as Hitler did to Czechoslovakia, or overwhelm them as with Poland. The youth groups simply do not have the means to stop the overwhelming legal blitzkrieg that will engulf them. This will open the gates to introduce youngsters to a different livestyle and convince them that “they were born that way.” Homosexual marriage will be a slam dunk once the youth groups are conquered and churches are muzzled. The media types are already running scared, and any who have the courage to oppose the interest group will lose their jobs and be branded as “bigots.” Those who defend Ron Brown also will be called “bigots” and any other ugly names that come to mind.

    So that folks is the gameplan in Lincoln and Omaha. Choose which team you want to join. Ron Brown’s team or Jerry Sandusky’s team. And if you do not want to play then you will be assigned to the Sandusky side of the stadium, since you lacked the guts to stand up and be counted at gametime.

    1. UkeOne says:

      Oh Mountainman: you sound like a prophet (or at least Republican)…enlighten me some more!

      1. Mountainman@ says:

        Watch them scramble to distance them from Sandusky. He is one of them and they know it.

        1. UkeOne says:

          You are so engulfed with Sandusky…don’t you worry your tiny-little, bigoted head one bit, now because the courts will handle him soon enough. In the meantime, just throw your ‘tablets’ at the condemned, Moses, & get it over with….I’ll just stick to the “knee jerk reactions and name calling.” Your arguments are just too rediculous to “give this any serious thought!” Oh, and you need to clean-up your crystal ball just a little bit…your Republican scare-tactics and sorry stories of gloom & doom are spooking the begeebees out of everyone! BOOOOOoooooooo! LOL!

  49. Greg says:

    I do know if we were all gay…there would be no more human race. Just sayin…Nuff said Go Big Red!

  50. Adam says:

    Why do people bring magic to a logic fight?

    1. BallField78 says:

      What logic? You want logic? OK, you don’t believe me. Therefore ponder this:
      “I am lying.”

  51. Pete says:

    Ron Brown believes homosexuality is wrong because it says so in the bible. If that’s the case, then i guess Ron is OK with killing first born, drowning non-believers in a flood, slavery, etc. We are no longer in the middle ages, we don’t need superstition to explain natural phenomena. I find it absurd that people who blindly subscribe to this biblical nonsense are “respected” for their faith. It’s ignorance. As a public employee Ron Brown needs to leave his religious views at home or find another job. BTW, the end of game group prayer that Christian groups have orchestrated also needs to go away.

  52. Huell Howser says:

    I think most people posting agree on two things. 1) Ron Brown is a man to be respected. 2) Ron Brown has a right to express his views as a citizen of the United States.

    That said. I am not a Christian and I couldn’t disagree more with him.

  53. UkeOne says:

    The sad scenario about this Ron Brown saga is that the University of Nebraska is not looking at this as seriously as it should. While allowing Brown to hold-on to his views…via Tom Osborne & Bo Pelini’s response…(and verbalize them while still employed at Nebraska), this could very well do some serious damage to the hard work the rest of the staff is putting into their recruiting efforts, not to mention the many other students and student-athletes (who atre considering Nebraska) may be thinking about now concerning the ‘lax attitude’ the University now has or may still be developing on this very sensitive topic. Most everyone agrees that Ron Brown can believe in whatever he wishes to believe in (in private, of course); likewise, it is obvious that as long as his beliefs are verbalized (either privately or publically under the Cornhusker banner), the University stands the chance of losing its credibility among future students, and the disdain among supporters and fans that fill Memorial Stadium every Saturday. Not only Nebraska, but the B1G needs to look at this as well because having a member school coddling someone while holding such a controversial and publically-verbal & damaging stance could destroy the conference’s reputation of celebrating its student diversity and acceptance of everyone as well. This is a serious issue that demands a more serious reaction. Slapping his hands and giving him a little tongue-lashing is just not enough….he is a menace to the State of Nebraska and to the University he represents. FIRE HIM, good coach or not!!!

    1. BallField78 says:

      I guess that means the B1G will never include that Catholic school in Indiana.

  54. UkeOne says:

    To extend further the consequences of Ron Brown’s continued verbalization (publically, especially while still employed to the University of Nebraska): the negative, public responses will likely continue, further causing more damage to both him and the University. But the greatest reeaon Brown should stop his barrage of attacks against homosexuals is because it is so sad to see so many people fighting over this issue. Just look at the number of responses this blog has received alone (in such a short amount of time). This issue is painfully ‘divisive’ and its ugly face is showing everyone out there in ESPN-land just how backward and narrow-minded Nebraska can be. How Sad!

  55. steve says:

    I have heard a lot of opinions, but I still have not been presented with 1 ounce of credible, scientific eveidence that supports that Gays were born that way. Does anyone have that evidence – please give me the scientific magazine it was published, date and year. Thanks.

    1. n0 on3 says:

      Please provide me with 1 ounce of credible, scientific eveidence that supports that Gays were not born that way. Why do supporters of equality for homosexuals have to prove there point through science, while opponents get to quote from a magical fairytale book written 2000 yrs ago.

      1. steve says:

        Three reasons to believe the Bible is supernatural and from God:

        1. There are hundreds of prophesies in the Bible and everyone one of them have been true. Not 50%, but everyone one of them. many of these prophesies were written hundreds of years before they happened. Man could not have come up with this. It was man who wrote the Bible while being inspired by God.
        2. Archeological evidence overwhelminly supports the Bible. Many secular scientists have become Christians by just looking at the archeaological evidence.
        3. Manuscript eveidence supports that the Bible is absolutely true.

        Answer me this: if God didn’t create the heavens and the Earth, or man, who did? where did we come from? How did something come from nothing? Have you evr seen your brain? Have you ever touched your brain? have you ever smelled your brain? Of course not but that does not mean you don’t have a brain. Romans 1: 19-22 states : “because what may be known of God is manifest in them for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world, His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse…..”

        Look, I was in the same boat as you, but I investigated the Bible and found out for myself that there was no way man could have come up with all of this. It has changed my life: my marriage, my work, my parenting, my life. Investigate it for yourself. It will change your life to.

        1. n0 on3 says:

          Please provide the scientific journal, date and year, which shows that 100% of biblical prophecies have proven to be true, along with the evidence that the bible is “absolutely true.” Any scientist would laugh in your face if you equated the Bible to scientific evidence. However, I am sorry I called it a magical fairytale book – I don’t necessarily believe that either.

          I was raised Catholic and I occasionally go to church. I believe in a God, a higher power that created everything, and right and wrong, but not necessarily all the other tenets of any particular religion. I do not believe in total biblical inspiration or infallibility. Just look at the Book of Leviticus. Or all the the references in the Bible which advocate slavery, the subjugation of women, stoning people to death, and sacrificing your firstborn. I think that most Christians would agree these are no longer considered acceptable. Someday we might consider its views on homosexuality outdated as well.

          Parts of the Bible include historical accounts, and parts may include inspired theology, but since it was written by man, parts of it also include the prejudices and cultural/cultic practices of the time (burning a bull at the altar). Not to mention that the Bible has been translated and re-translated many times over the years, so who knows if the original intentions of the authors remain. The Bible is also subject to interpretation, which is why there are so many denominations of Christianity.

          This is just my opinion, but I believe that homosexuals are born that way. It doesn’t make sense to me that someone would choose a lifestyle that would cause them to be run out of their hometown and disowned by their parents. Besides, I don’t remember choosing to be straight. Also, I do not believe that God would condemn a loving, committed, monogamous relationship between two people of the same gender. I may be wrong, but final judgement is up to Him, not man.

          I also realize that nothing I said will probably sway your opinion, since you didn’t get your “scientific evidence,” which I’m not sure you even understand what that phrase means.

          1. steve says:

            If you would like, I can fill this blog with with biblical prophecies that have been proven true(start with the book of daniel for instance), or archeological evidence that supports the Bible. But the real question still is the same question that Ron Brown asked the city council – What are you going to do with Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ claimed to be God. If I claimed to be God you would have to conclude 1 of 3 things:

            1. I am crazy.
            2. I am lying.
            3. I am God.
            So that is what you have to answer about Jesus. He is either 1 of the 3. Was he crazy, lying, or was he who he said he was. I believe (and his miracles and resurrection prove) that He was Christ. Who do you say he was? If you think he was crazy and lying, then yes, you can’t rely on anything the Bible says as being true. But if you believe He was God, then the Bible becomes so much more. And the Bible is very clear on Homosexuality.
            Let me put it one more way. Let’s say I am wrong, and Jesus was not God and the Bible is not true. Then what have I really lost? My belief in Jesus Christ has made my marriage, life, parenting, my relationships better even if it is all a lie. And I guess I am in the same boat as everyone else when it comes to life after death. But what if I am right and Jesus was God and the Bible is the inspired Word of God? If that’s the case Christ talked more about Hell than He did about Heaven. Are you willing to bet your eternal life that I am wrong. For me it is a win -win situation. So my question to you is – What are you going to do with Jesus Christ? You are betting your life on it. You had better be right.

          2. n0 on3 says:

            “And the Bible is very clear on Homosexuality.” The Bible is also very clear on the right to own slaves, that women are less than men, and stoning people to death. Is this part of the Bible also inspired by God? Do you believe that these things are acceptable? Is it right to stone someone for working on Sunday?

          3. steve says:

            the distinctions between moral,
            civil, and ceremonial laws are critically important because this
            identification allows people to know whether a particular law
            applies to them. Moral laws, according are universal and timeless. They still apply as law to Chris-
            tian believers today. Civil and ceremonial laws, on the other hand,
            applied only to ancient Israel. They do not apply at all to believers

  56. bigdave212 says:

    I so appreciated this article. Thank you for writing it!

    1. bigdave212lover says:

      thanks for sucking the chrome off my trailer hitch last noc!

  57. ClarkGriswald says:

    Excluding or restricting members of one group from opportunities that are available to other groups is discrimination…….PERIOD. Jesus taught us to love one another, and also to forgive others. It’s not complicated. How can you hate, and claim to be a Christian? I don’t understand.

  58. TO says:

    Religion is a good thing.. unless taken too seriously.. I think history will prove this out.

  59. Chris M says:

    Man I thought we Catholics were brain washed but you Christians take it to a whole other level!! Steve still waitin on your scientific evidence? How about some scientific evidence that God created earth or man? Call Tom Cruise, bring some scientology experts into this, then this’ll really get interesting!!

  60. Dead Horse says:

    You’ve beat this horse enough. I died 150 posts ago.

  61. Rich says:

    What bothers me about Ron Brown is he is picking and choosing what the bible says. His bible also says to beat his wife and man should own slaves. If Ron Brown is so adamant about this issue in the bible, are we to assume he believes in slavery and he beats his wife? So says the bible. GBR.

  62. WA Husker says:

    I have no problem in the world with Ron Brown vowing his Christian allegiance to support discrimination stance re gay/lesbian people provided he is equally cool with the millenia of those white folks many of whom still ardently hate blacks based on similar proof texting from the same bible he about which he is so constantly urgent. Having marched with Dr. King in Selma and heard dozens of white Southern bigots support their small, hateful stances with claims that God made Cain black for killing Abel and that all black people will forever bear that scar; all of this in white, segregated Southern churches, no less.

    This arrogant, ignorant junk continues to this day; and, it is as disgusting as it is small. And, it is completely ironic that we now have a black coach using the bible to “pay it forward,” as it were, to “homosexuals” (always the carefully nuanced truth the Christians want you to konw about). Civil rights did not begin – nor will it end – with black folks. Tribal Biblical Bigotry is as old as religious nut cases are; and, I will oppose you in every place and time you espouse your views, Ron. Count on it.

    That said, you have been a fine football coach for Nebraska for many, many years. The primary reason anyone paid attention to your remarks publically is because you are a large-than-life public figure. We all knew your religious stance; and, while I agree with nothing in it, I had no problem with it – or you – so long as you kept your views outside the public sphere, which your job and employer require. You knew about that in being at Nebraska as well as Nebraska knew about you in hiring you. The “dance” must precisely be a careful one, always walking the fine line your opportunity requires. In this instance you were sloppy. And, in crossing the line, you have every reason to expect push back by those of us offended by the absurdity we feel your thinking respresents.

    Your supporters, predictably, are playing the “Christian free speech” card. Any push back on Conservative Christians and their diatribe is always an immediate assault on American Values, Family, and Everything Else. Tough. You were hired to coach football, and coach it well. Everything else you talk the public sphere is irrelevant. Just coach, Coach. If you can’t, move on.

  63. mosier1483 says:

    Bring ESPN Gameday to Lincoln and get NU some great exposure and a free commercial. This is a chance for fans to actually make a real difference for the program. Voting ends today!

  64. Dead Horse says:

    Is it over? Shame on you all and especially the OWH and Dirk.

    This horse is not only dead, it’s now been completely dismembered and made into Alpo.

    This stink-bait topic is toxic. Back to football.